Announcer: 0:07

Welcome to Aging with Purpose and Passion, the podcast designed to inspire your greatness and thrive through life. Get ready to conquer your fears. Here's your host, psychotherapist, coach, and empowerment expert, Beverley Glazer.

Beverley Glazer: 0:33

What if the stories you keep telling yourself are holding you back from the life you deserve? Welcome to Aging with Purpose and Passion. I'm Beverley Glazer, a transition coach and catalyst for women who are ready to raise the bar in their own lives. And you can find me on reInventInpossible.com. Hollywood therapist, Dr. Nicki Monty, knows this firsthand. From childhood trauma, addiction, loss, and finally discovering true love, she's transformed every chapter of her pain into purpose. Dr. Monty has appeared on reality shows like Keeping Up with the Kardashians, Millionaire Matchmaker, and Love Handles, and her television, podcast interviews, and articles have made her a household name. Through her Suck No More platform and best-selling books, Dr. Nikki empowers others to create lasting and meaningful change. Welcome, Nikki.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 1:39

It's great to be here with you. I'm telling you, it was a it was a journey of its own, wasn't it? Always, always.

Beverley Glazer: 1:49

Nikki, you were born in LA, but you went to boarding school when you were very, very, very young. I mean, kids go to boarding school, seven years old. That's scary.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 2:00

Yeah, it was scary. It was scary. I mean, I wouldn't say I I deeply remember how scary, but I I know it was a strange experience. And there you are in your very little uh not uh uh within this last few years, I went for the second time. The first time I went back to sea, it's in OHI, California, so it's only a few hours from Los Angeles where I live. And um uh the first time I was taken up there uh at that point by a boyfriend, he uh, which is many, many years ago, he I couldn't get out of the car. He thought he'd surprise me with this trip, right? I couldn't get out of the car. And then uh this last time I went on purpose, which was in the last few years with a friend of mine and my my now partner, and uh I got out, I managed to get out of the car. But when I looked at how young those children were, I realized how young I was. And uh there's a there's a little story in the book about this fellow uh who turned out to be the principal. It was a Sunday, but they were doing it, it changed very much. It was mostly day students. We were not day students, there were a couple, but we slept over and stayed over. And he came up to me uh and us, and he said, uh, uh, and and my partner Tom said, uh, oh, you know, she used to go here when she was a uh a little little girl. And he said, Really? Oh, and he was clearly not there when I had started at seven. And uh he said, Oh, what do you remember? And I heard come out of my mouth, which you know, because I'm very connected to my heart and my feelings. So sometimes just my inside voice just comes out, you know. And I said, What do I remember? Horses in sadness. Oh, and he was um uh okay. Well, look, have a look around.

Beverley Glazer: 3:58

See I didn't know how to deal with that one. I didn't know what to say, and I don't blame him. It was, you know, no, no, it's very, very scary. But your mom traveled, your mom traveled a lot, she was also an alcoholic. How did that affect you?

Dr. Nicki Monti: 4:16

Well, you know, it's interesting. One of the things about having been in uh boarding school was in California for two years, and I was in New Jersey for a year, and then I was in Darien, Connecticut for eight years. So the whole thing was 11 years. Uh and uh so one thing I and then I'd be with my mother in the summers or on you know, Christmas vacation and whatever.

Beverley Glazer: 4:38

Sure.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 4:38

And I realized way after, you know, and of course, the whole time I was just to myself saying, Oh, they've thrown me away, they don't want me, which has some reality to it. I was an intrusion, and they and that was that what it was. It was more convenient. My mother used to say, Well, I can do what I do and we can live well, or we could live in a shack. And I used to say, Well, let's let's live in a shack, you know. So, but um many years later, I realized what a good deal boarding school was. Because had not it been for boarding school, I would have been with my alcoholic mother and what uh early on became my alcoholic stepfather. And uh I would have been with that all the time. But what alcohol, what being brought up in an alcoholic home taught me was resilience, vigilance, uh, flexibility, and um and really uh an ability which I still have to pivot because you just don't know what it's gonna be like at any given time. Are they gonna be lovey and wonderful uh for 10 minutes? Are they gonna be like screaming at each other and getting totally so drunk they can't stand up? You just don't know. And so uh it it you know, I'm pretty good at ducking and weaving, I'll tell you that. And I'm also good at adapting. Uh, and like I said, resilience. And also in boarding school, the the the um platform, my my life of service got established then, which of course I didn't know then, uh, because I was mother surrogate and people came to me with their problems. And uh I have a picture of me uh probably I'm I I must have been two or something, and I'm sitting, I'm all dressed up, which obviously I didn't do myself, but still it it it predicts my being overdressed throughout my life, which I was. And uh so I'm all dressed up and I'm sitting on this armless chair, and I have this expression on my face. And I'm sitting like this, as if I'm looking at a patient. I mean, again, it looks like I'm doing you know, two-year-old therapy to another two-year-old.

Beverley Glazer: 6:57

So very cute. It's very cute. Finally, you went off to college, and that was by choice, yeah. And you wanted to go away, and you studied communications, which is always interesting.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 7:11

Which is code for at that time, it was code for acting.

Beverley Glazer: 7:14

Uh, yes, it's just a big word for that. And and also addictions curiousness.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 7:21

Yes, I got a degree in addiction. It was not they didn't give me the degree. No, I formed my I made my own syllabus. Like, what will this year be about?

Beverley Glazer: 7:33

Well, I didn't quite get word, but and and your first husband was an alcoholic, too to form.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 7:40

So well, actually, I I call my first husband um uh an uh drug more of a drug addict. We were more of druggies, you know, druggies in the 60s. And uh my second husband was an alcoholic, and my third husband, the one that was it just goes on and on. You know, my name takes forever. We don't have time in the podcast for it, but uh the third husband uh was a recovered, he had 20 years of sobriety when I met him. He was older than me. And so, but still, uh the ism, as we say, is there, whether you're drinking or you're not drinking, you know.

Beverley Glazer: 8:18

Sure. Why do you think you kept on repeating that behavior? Kept on going.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 8:23

That's what we do. This is the basis of a lot of what I teach. I look for early patterns and I and we look together at how we're perpetuating those early beliefs and with through the patterns we adopt uh and uh create. So my early idea of myself was clearly, I mean, my my biological father left when I was four, you know, and my mother was always trying all those things, and the alcoholism, which is a not present kind of parenting situation, even if I was there all the time. Alcoholism doesn't let you be present if you're deeply. I think it's funny that they call it practicing. I'm like, you know, you're perfect at this, you don't need to practice anymore. Yeah, but anyway, so um the uh I watched them, and of course I was never gonna be an alcoholic. No, of course not. Nobody is oh, so I did drugs, you know. I missed the point. I started with drugs. Um, and but uh early on, because of my uh interpretation of what happened, I decided that I was a throwaway and that I would never be enough for anybody to love me. And based on that, that's the the foundation that I laid and that I the you know the the hill I died on, uh, that over and over again I proved by the choices I made, by the decisions I made, uh within myself, by the way I lived my life. And it was pretty dark. Um, and all the time I looked pretty good. You know, I had great masking talents. Yeah. And so I was uh I was able to look kind of successful-ish. I mean, I always made enough money, whatever it was. I did, I as I as I say, I always made more money than the men I was with. Uh and even with my my alcoholic second brutal husband, um, we were both on uh unemployment at one point. My unemployment was higher.

Beverley Glazer: 10:47

That's aiming low.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 10:48

Yeah, that's aiming low, baby. I mean, he was aiming low. He was uh he was a low rider, I tell you. I was I was uh definitely uh going for lower companions, as we call them. And uh and then I I got this opportunity to come out to California, and it really was a brilliant opportunity. It came out of uh uh uh I was working with a psychic teacher and I was training to be increasing my intuitive psychic resources. And he came out to do a workshop in California, and uh I came with him as his right-hand person because I always liked reflected glory. You know, I was always, you know, the teacher's pet everywhere when it was the teacher's pet until I hit a hit a wall on that. And then I was like, what is happening here? Why am I not the teacher's pet anymore? Anyway, so I um came out to uh I came out to California and lived with uh a famous actress who brought me out here, very sweet, wonderful woman. And uh and that started my California journey. And of course, there was a man involved. There's always a man involved for me, and uh, because that was gonna fix me. You know, I'm gonna find the right man, and that's gonna make me better, though I barely let them in emotionally. So I don't know how that would have happened. But uh, this lovely man, he was very spiritual and very, you know, much, very much a seeker and really opened me up to whole new realms. And I've I've always been, I've had a seeker soul, you know. I've always wanted to know how this can be better and how I can be better, and why is the world so odd? And how is it that I'll never know everybody's stories? And of course I turned into a therapist. Now I know all the stories. Since they're only 72.

Beverley Glazer: 12:46

Well, we do.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 12:50

And yeah.

Beverley Glazer: 12:51

Yes So when did you decide, okay, I'm done? I want to get sober.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 12:56

Yeah. Well, I was in an acting class. I was always going to be and listen to the words, a famous actress. It wasn't that, you know, and I talked about the art and I wanted to heal people through film. It was just nonsense. I just wanted everybody to love me and remember me. Uh, I didn't know that at the time. I started that thinking when I was six, you know, or maybe earlier, you know, it was all about my mother, really, and my father. So um, I was out here in California and I was in an acting class, and I had a best friend in the acting class, and we were great drunks together, also, you know, and some drugs and stuff like that. And uh one day, uh a couple of years into us, no, I was in 79, so around uh around 81 or something, she said, Um, I'm getting sober, I've gotten sober. And I said, Oh, honey, that is so great. I am so happy for you. I just can't imagine I can do that, but you go, girl, you know. So uh she said, you know, I think you can do it. I said, I really think I can't. Well, we have two different stories. I still know her, she's still a very close friend of mine, so it's all you know, over for 45 like years later, right? And she said, uh, she says that I begged her to take me to her 12-step program. I say she dragged me to her 12-step program. And I'm sure, like most stories, somewhere in between is the truth. Exactly. And so I started going, and at first I treated it like a church I had never been to, had never been to church anyway, but uh, and I went on Sundays, and really that was that that was not working for me. And uh, and then I uh I started going on a daily basis, and you know, and I was really rigorous, and I went sometimes twice a day through I was you know, and all of the feelings I had been running from, all of those loneliness feelings and yearning feelings and furious feelings, and you know, the grief, all the feelings came gushing out, unabated. I mean, I've always been kind of chatty, you can tell, right? Always. And so it there was no, there were no guardrails, and uh, they were just out there, and I was a mess. And um I had started this business. I was always very entrepreneurial. My mother was an entrepreneur, my grandmother was an entrepreneur, I was very entrepreneurial. It's one of the great gifts my mother gave me, and uh so I started this business, and uh it was a phone sex business, and this was long before anybody was doing anything like that. I mean, there was no, you know, there were no videos, thank the Lord. There were no, you know, there was no FaceTime. No, it was just like pick up the phone that you're connected to the wall and you're chatting. And uh it was a great fit for me because I had lots of freedom. I loved fantasy and talking about fantasy, and very early on in working in that business, in creating this business, which was very financially lucrative even then. Amazing. I realized that talking about sex or doing fantasy work was the smallest part of what I did when I was on the phone with the guys. The big part was hearing about their loneliness, the way their marriage wasn't working, what what what they you know, where they were feeling angry, or all the feelings I was feeling at the same time, right? And so a young friend of mine said, I said, I have this great idea. I think I should start a phone therapy business. Because then this was so advanced, I was so beyond, you know, affronted, right? Yes. So I said, because people are are are uh self-conscious about going to therapy, they don't want to be then they but they'll talk on the phone. And I'm having so many conversations about this. And my young friend, she was I think 19 or 20 at the time, she said, you know, that's a great idea, but you should go back to school and get a therapy license. Because then you can get investors, people will take you more seriously. I said, Great. I mean, I didn't want to feel all the feelings, so I just thought, okay, I'm running this business, I'll go to school, I'll go to meetings, I will just stay so busy, I will be a moving target that my feelings can't reach. So I went back to I went back to school. And I know I just loved it. And it immediately started changing my approach to the phone business, you know, and I was so excited about what I was learning. And one day I was sitting in a session, I had a lot to learn, you know. I thought I knew a lot, which I kind of did because of my own pain and how much therapy I'd done by then. Uh, but um I was sitting in a session with this fellow, very nervous little fellow, was a loafy clinic and all that, and he was talking about his anxiety and all this, and all of a sudden I had this wave rush through me. It was my birthday, and a lot of great things have always happened on my birthday. So this wave rushed through me, and the wave I heard this inner voice say, This is what you're supposed to be doing. This I shut down my acting searches, I stopped going to classes for acting. I did put away my plans to start a phone business. I would be a bazillionaire by now if I'd done that, but okay. Now they're doing it. This year, this you know, two years ago, whatever. And uh, and I just put one foot in the uh in front of the other. And uh before you noted, I had a business, I had a practice.

Beverley Glazer: 19:18

Yes, incredible. It was and yeah, and now yeah, now I and now at that point I was sobered. Yeah. And you're still married though. Now, husband number three.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 19:30

Well, number three came along when I was five years sober. So I had those five years of just sort of randomly dating and doing the things we do in early sobriety, some of which are continuations of what we did before sobriety, because bad choices don't just disappear. No, they don't, and self-esteem doesn't just appear, it takes a lot of work. So I had a lot of self-hatred, even you know, especially it was really grinding on me in that first year.

Beverley Glazer: 19:57

For sure. And you were with this man for over 30 years. For over 30 years, and he was dying of cancer eventually, and you nursed him through that.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 20:08

I did. Uh, he was we were about 31 years in, and uh, and then we went into what I uh we had he had a throat cancer, which we beat, you know, so that took like half a year or something, and then we had two months off, and we thought we were up and running, and then he was hit with all these other cancers. So we spent a total of about 18 months. Um, and it was an extraordinary transformative experience for me. Not that I didn't kick and scream through a lot of it, it was right before COVID. So we had some time before COVID where I was nursing him and doing all these things. I nursing, not my thing. Now I'm I'm an empath. So you tell me about a surgery you had, I get pains that shoot up my legs and go through my body. So for me to learn to flush the feeding tubes and do the thing and give the medication and you know, do all the things that go go to the ER eight billion times. It was, you know, dreadful. And but of course, more dreadful for him because he was a very vibrant, big personality guy, and he was being depotentiated on a daily basis. But you know what, Beverly? He stayed through the whole thing great, much, he was much better at dying than I was at watching him die. He stayed grateful, gracious. I'm not saying he didn't get grumpy or but every night. So eventually I gave in to having caregivers because I couldn't, I was had a business. I had pivoted, it was now COVID. I had pivoted to doing all my work on Zoom, which was kind of new then. Yeah, it was Zoom. Before that, I had done a little bit. So I mean, it was a great gift. So I was I closed my big office and you know, was working out of the house so I could be right near him, but I had to get caregivers. I needed caregivers 20 hours a day, right? So that was a whole new thing. Here we were, we had lived alone together for all these years, no children, and suddenly the house was constantly full. I called it Monty Abbey. And uh so uh, but he was primarily so gracious, and he constantly thought he was about to jump up and get back into life. He had a coloscopy bag. I mean, it was dreadful. He couldn't do anything by himself, but he, you know, he put him in a wheelchair, push him around the block, and he thought life was just fabulous, and it was all gonna change, and he was gonna jump off, and everything was gonna be great. And I was both annoyed and impressed. I was annoyed because it felt like I needed to carry all the pain for us both, and that was hard. And uh, but it taught me a lot about I had worked a lot with death and dying over the years with people, clients. It's not the same as when it's your husband, you know, and uh so but our relationship was really the best it's ever been because I left aside all expectations. He was never gonna jump up and be the man I thought all the time he should be. You know, I have a little bit of controlling in me, and uh uh and I just surrendered to it. I dropped my expectations and I kept my gripes to myself. I eventually got an online therapist, um, but I hadn't done individual therapy in 35 years, you know, and I got this fantastic Englishman who is living in Spain. I mean, what a world, huh? What a world! Incredible now. Incredible. So incredible.

Beverley Glazer: 24:09

Yeah, and he was perfect for me.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 24:12

And he walked me through it all.

Beverley Glazer: 24:14

Yeah. And when did you decide, Nikki? Because he died and he went right through that. That now I deserve real love. Yeah. Now I deserve that.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 24:28

Now let me say this. Conrad loved me like no one in the world has ever been loved, I'm pretty sure. I was his everything, which is both stunning, awful, wonderful, dread, you know, it's all the things, right? All of that. He loved me and attended to, you know, and focused on my value like my parents had never done. And I knew I was healing that piece throughout the marriage. I knew that was I gave everything. I was the breadwinner, I was the inventor, I was the friend maker, I was the party giver, whatever. And he, you know, was his the terrific parts of him. But however, he wasn't the partnership, it was not what uh was not fulfilling, you know. It was fulfilling in terms of that healing piece, which was I'll always be grateful for. And he was such an interesting, brilliant man. And I'll always be grateful, but we didn't have a lot in common except sobriety and whatever else I created for us to have in common. But I during the uh during the dying, uh, a friend of mine, wonderful per uh astrologer, said to me, You should keep an online journal. You'll need it later. I didn't know what he meant. I had no idea, and I don't know that he knew what he meant, but I started doing that, and it was really good because you get brain fog when you're sitting in with doctors and doing this and that. You just do it. Very true. So I started writing things down, and that began the process that became my, you know, the divine traumatic of Nikki Joy, True Grime Tale, the current book that I have just um had published. And um also the minute he died in the dying process, and the minute he died, I just wrote and wrote, and and I've always I've been writing since I was probably eight or nine. I wrote and wrote and wrote and wrote. It saved my life, I really think it did. And I really transformed myself, and it was only 10 or 10 and a half months or so when I decided it was time to date again. And I thought sometimes I'm gonna have an attitude towards this, you know. Well, how so soon? But I'd been working on myself all along, and I really felt ready to open my heart in a way I never had. So, what I say is I always thought love. I could be so good with my clients, compassionate. I'm a hard teacher, because I tell truth, but you know, loving as well. And I could feel that with my clients, but with personal love, not so much. I thought it, but I didn't really feel it in my solar plexus where one should or can. And so I started dating. And you know, there were some lovely people out there. Everything was the same as it had always been, really. I just picked up where I left off, except with more discernment. But everything and sobriety. And sobriety, which was a different story, and so everyone was uh, you know, they were uh they wanted to be uh liked and appreciated, and they wanted to brag or not, you know, whatever they were looking for, and everybody was horny. So that was the the overall whatever we did with that. So uh, and I have, you know, so I went out with a few nice guys, and there were a couple of you know jerks that I sort of said, no, thank you. And um and then I met Tom on Hinge. How is that possible? How is that even possible? But I was super honest, on hinge. I was super honest about who I was, and like, you know, no, I'm not gonna be your workout buddy or your hiking friend. No, you should live and be well, go go hike and work out, not walking up hills with you, and um, you know, just who I am. Yeah, and we a client of mine who met Tom very early on, so from the day we met, we were in, and said we were like two, she described it, and she's not necessarily very um poetic, but in this case she was. She said, You are like two souls who have been traveling for eons towards each other and have come collided together now. Lovely, and I felt the love in my solar plexus that I had never been able to feel because I'd opened my heart and I had really, I mean, I've been working on vulnerability, which is sort of an oxymoron, but for so so long, and I just gave it all, and I made choices from the start to put love first, which I had never in my life done because I was my mother and my grandmother's daughter and you know, granddaughter. Sure, they didn't. Why should I?

Beverley Glazer: 29:48

Exactly. Let me ask you you say that um change is a matter of choice, and I believe that as well, but you have More, which happens to be a platform. Tell us about it. Tell us about choices. Tell us all about that.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 30:07

Well, the it's a little of what so, first of all, uh Stuck No More comes out of a the book uh my first book, Stuck in the Story No More. And uh, and so then my brand became Stuck No More. So the idea is that thing that I was saying, that I had made this interpretation of my parents' behavior. My father left me because I he didn't care enough to stay. My mother sent me to boarding school because I was an intrusion in the life she wanted to create. Uh, as opposed to my father left me because he needed to go. And by the way, he didn't leave me, he left my mother. I just was collateral damage. And my mother sent me away because she did want a particular life, and it was impossible to bring up a little girl in that life she wanted. She chose that life over me, that is true. But my interpretation that it was all about me was incorrect. And how I and how I languaged that to myself was distorted. Now, of course, I was a little bitty person. Of course I made that assumption. It's not that I'm an idiot for having done that, but then I built defenses, which is what stuck in the story no more is about. I built all these defenses to keep my, to validate my original assumption. I um I couldn't accept help, you know, because I knew I had to do it all myself, which is you know not great for relationships. So uh so I couldn't, you know, over time it got worse and worse. I couldn't accept help. I was very um uh I was very shut down. I didn't allow my feelings to come forward. I was protecting my little baby girl inside her vulnerability, where the vulnerability lived with her. I was protecting that at all, uh, you know, for everything I was and could be. What I changed, and what I think we all can change, is not our story. Our story is our story. My mother's first word about me when she found out I was a girl instead of a boy was shit. I that's my birth story. Okay, that's true. But what we can change is our relationship to the story. We change our relationship to it. And everywhere along the way, even with my violent second husband, I uh I I um sift through. I sifted through and still sift through to see what am I learning here? What did I learn here? If you don't learn anything, then you know you're gonna just keep making the same mistakes. But we have the choice to change the road down which we walk. I had the choice to get sober. I work with a lot of addiction. I'm an addiction specialist, among other things. And uh people say, you know, it isn't easy. I say, yeah, I'm aware. Living life on life's terms awake is not easy, but it's actually easier than being asleep through your whole life.

Beverley Glazer: 33:25

And causing pain. Yeah, it sure is. Now, Nikki, looking back at all the trauma, the loss, the healing, and the resilience. Just a short sentence. What do you want our listeners to know after all that life experience? The ups, the downs, the ins, the outs. What would you want them to know?

Dr. Nicki Monti: 33:46

I want the listeners to know that how passionate and purposeful and dedicated your life can be is up to you. It's not like you hit a certain age and it's over. Might as well sit on the couch and watch the, you know, watch all the shows and just bemoan your fate. You can change. You can change if you really want to. We are, I want to be vital till the last breath. That's my intention, and I'd love it to be your intention too.

Beverley Glazer: 34:24

Awesome. Thank you, Nikki. Dr. Nikki J. Monty is a psychotherapist, an author, a spiritual mentor dedicated to helping people break free from the stories that keep them stuck. With over 25 years of experience, she blends psychological insights and intuitive wisdom to guide clients towards healing and self-worth.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 34:49

40 years of experience.

Beverley Glazer: 34:51

Well, I made that big mistake. 40 years of experience for sure. That was picked up somewhere. Anyway, with 40 years of experience, and you will find her on TV shows, much like keeping up with the Kandashians and Millionaire Matchmaker. And through her Stuck No More platform and best-selling books, she empowers others to transform their pain, to have long-lasting change. Here are a few takeaways from this episode. Please don't ignore your intuition. Healing begins when you start owning your story. And getting unstuck starts with a choice. You have to believe that you're worthy. If you've been relating to this story, here's some quick actions that you could do right now. Don't judge yourself harshly. Compassion is more powerful than blame. Stay open to all forms of love. When you're open to receive it, the magic happens. And reach out for connection. Find a therapist, a coach, a supportive community that reminds you that you are not alone. For similar stories on healing from pain, check out episodes 145 and 149 of Aging with Purpose and Passion. And if you like podcasts for older women, check out Women in the Middle. That's the podcast hosted by Life Coach Susie Rosenstein. And she features guest interviews, humor, and coaching advice. That link will be in the show notes right here. And so, Dr. Nikki, where can people find you? Please share your links and where they can reach out to you.

Dr. Nicki Monti: 36:36

Well, the thing that covers all the places is uh if you go to wwwstucknomore.com, and if you're interested in my new book, which has these stories I've told, but about a billion more, because I it's a memoir that teaches through story, uh, then forward slash uh books. Uh but the the website will give it all. Of course, I'm on Instagram uh at Dr. Nicki Monty, I am on Facebook at Dr. Nicki Monty, uh, you know, I'm on all the places. I'm on everywhere. I have my own YouTube channel, of course, again, Dr. Nicki Monty. And uh I am open and happy to answer questions if you come on to Facebook or or Instagram and you want to DM me, I'm there for you.

Beverley Glazer: 37:25

Terrific. And if you didn't get any of those links, or even you got a few, you will find them also on my site too, and they're also in the show notes. My site is reinventimpossible.com. And so, my friends, what's next for you? Are you just going through the motions or are you living a life that you truly love? Get my free guide to help you reboot your confidence, and that's also in the show notes. You can connect with me, Beverley Glazer, on all social media platforms and in my positive group of women on Facebook. That's Women Over50 Rock. And thank you for listening. Have you enjoyed this conversation? Please subscribe to help us spread the word by dropping a review and sending it out to a friend. And remember, you only have one life, so live it with purpose and passion.

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